company. we are just missing some mint juleps. i don't know how many times you can have a conversation with me in pink linen so i have to take advantage of it. this is the 150th kentucky derby. the fastest two minutes in sports. this goes back to 1875 and has been run every year through world wars, through the covid- 19 pandemic, through all of that and so much more. this race has gone on every year for 150 years. we have the beautiful outfits, all of the bright colors. we also have the sun. yesterday was the kentucky oaks which is another big race and there were plenty of people, tens of thousands of people, and it was rainy for a people, tens of thousands of people here at churchill downs in louisville. it was raining for good amount of the day. that makes for a tough express for watching but can change the track conditions. that is something to keep an eye on as the race unfolds this

evening. you can hear the famous play from the bugle then we will see the kentucky derby begin and we will watch to see the track conditions because of the weather yesterday. it is clear and sunny now. clouds in the distance. hopefully we will have clear skies for a milestone moment here at churchill downs. less than four hours away for that. >> in your perfectly attired pink linen shirt for the occasion. moments we have steve kornacki at the big board with his take on the derby favorites and the new trouble in texas. damage left by severe flooding and the risk that lies ahead tomorrow. and the testimony of hope hicks. what she were helpful to the prosecution or the defense? a good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters

in new york. welcome to alex witt reports. we will take you to george solis. he is standing by the university of pennsylvania campus in philadelphia. keep an eye not only on activities there for what we are getting from virginia, specifically charlotte sphere, the university of virginia campus. we are bringing the pictures of a very large police presence. they were trying to take down an encampment that's been in existence for the last nine days. looks like they are being successful in doing so. talk about the big picture. what is going on not only in virginia but ricocheting across campuses in this country. >> reporter: this is part of the crackdown that we have been seeing over the last several days. police descend on some of these encampments and begin to take them down. obviously bringing a bigger focus to not only what has been happening at the university is but raised the question of who

has been involved in some of these encampments. switching gears to columbia, where the officials noted that some of the people they arrested were not actually students there. obviously that remains to be seen as we see the scenes play out in charlottesville. raises the question about the use of force. a ucla, that raised a lot of questions from the faculty and from some of the student demonstrators saying what they saw seemed excessive. at columbia, the nypd saying one of the officers accidentally discharged the weapon during the raids at the university after some demonstrators occupied historic hamilton hall. of course we are very much in the early stages of what is happening in charlottesville right now. and what it looks like as we are watching the images unfold. the heavy police presence there. what we see play out, what we have seen playoff is a

methodical process by police as they begin talking to some of the demonstrators and telling them of a certain amount of time to leave. how much time they have been given has remains to be seen but what ends up happening is receiving authorities begin to take down some of the encasements detaining some of the people and after the fact is when we start to learn who might have been -- a student, who might have been outside influences or outside agitators. let's not forget that we are also in the midst of graduation season. a lot of the scenes playing out under the backdrop of universities and college campuses we have students were trying to take commencement photos thinking about whether or not the university might have a commencement. earlier we will talk about columbia and how it seems to be the discussion now they are that's the might not have mannesmann at all. and discussion at other universities by having it at other locations are different types of ceremonies to silbert the grads who -- this graduating class is a one impacted during the pandemic. it is a multifaceted big picture problem with these encampments. here as the rain is falling down, the students have not

moved an inch. whether they are in negotiations with university remains to be seen. but students have been peaceful and the calls there, musick what we have seen from coast-to- coast, they are calling on the university to divest from israel. >> given that it is relatively peaceful there have you seen a large security presence, whether be campus police from the university of pennsylvania, or any side of outside of philadelphia police that are there patrolling the area? any presence of that? >> philly police have been around the perimeter of the campus. penn has their own security force here. there have not been any arrest, however the university has reached out to the officials and what we are told, they are on standby ready to move in if the protest or if things go out of hand. at the moment, just seems like

the presence of the authorities here. earlier this morning, the university was pressure washing some of the talk set up out here. there letting the presence be known but in terms of any movement as to whether or not they will move into the encampment, we have not seen that. >> thank you so much for the very latest. we will keep our eyes on what is happening the university of virginia campus. new reaction to the pivotal testimony for hope hicks. giving jurors an inside look at the trump campaign meltdown after the access hollywood tape leak. joining me is jillian frankel who was at the courthouse yesterday. walk us through hope hicks's testimony. >> reporter: we heard dramatic and emotional testimony yesterday on the sent from former president trump adviser, trump caffeine -- campaign

staff for hope hicks as she sat across from her former boss talk about the access hollywood tape and the repercussions around that. she said that it was a crisis for the campaign. she talked about the "wall street journal" article that came out days ahead of the residential election back in 2016 that outlined allegations from karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. two women who both alleged affairs with the former president. more broadly, she also talked about conversations with michael cohen and david pecker, the national enquirer publisher. and and it texture for what we've been hearing for weeks now. >> she absolutely did that. stay with me because i'm going to bring in the former u.s. attorney and msnbc analyst joyce vance. in terms of your takeaways from hope hicks's testimony, how did you read it? >> hope hicks is one witness in this case. the government's case will not

rely on any one witness or one statement. it will be layers of evidence that will be successfully woven together to establish proof beyond a reasonable doubt. hope hicks is helpful. she ties donald trump to the fear around the access hollywood tape and payments made by michael cohen. she has a little bit of baggage. she is not a remorseful witness who is cooperating with the government. she clearly has feelings of loyalty towards trump and she testified that trump was concerned about the impact that this revelation would have on his family and particularly, on his wife. the government will have to find evidence to the contrary from other sources. hope is not without a bit of baggage in this regard. it was a good outing for the government. it was strong and effectively blocked her for being a witness for donald trump. >> i'm curious, hope hicks began her testimony and right off the bat she said i am

nervous. what was her demeanor like on the hours on the stand? >> she is only did appear nervous and i point started crying on the stand as cross- examination began. it seemed that she was overwhelmed as the cross examiner, the defense attorney was trying to talk about the extent of her relationship with the trump organization and with the trump family. it appeared it became overwhelming for her and the jury had to take a break for a few moments. >> interesting. she was subpoenaed. they made it clear that she did not want to be there. as you said, she proved to be a useful witness. possibly for both the prosecution and the defense. >> i think that is a fair statement. maybe she is more for the

prosecution then the defense because despite her comments about trump's concern about his family, is plenty of evidence to the contrary including his efforts to get out of making the payments after he won the presidency and his obsession with delaying for as long as possible because none of this would matter if he was elected or after the election was over. there are always complications like this in trial. it is never one-sided. these are always tough facts and we ask juries to decide what is true. >> they brought her to the stand to show how worried the trump campaign was about the negative stories coming out about him and women before the election. first with the access hollywood tape and then in a rapidfire questioning the prosecutor asked, were you concerned about the effect it would have on the campaign, did any prominent republicans condemned the behavior on the tape? were you concerned at the time about the effect that the access hollywood tape would have on the female voters? joyce, what was the prosecution hoping to accomplish with this line of questioning?

>> prosecutors are not obligated to prove the motive for a crime. that is not an element of the case. but juries like to understand why things happen and any case we can provide motive is of a much more compelling case for jurors and that is exactly what the access hollywood tape is. this is the concern. this is the panic in the campaign as they had republican supporters who backed away from them. people who considered dropping the recommendations of donald trump. this is what led the prosecution will argue to the payments, to the effort to conceal them because it would have all been for nothing if this had come to light because the payments were revealed to be the legitimate campaign expenses that they, in fact, were. this will help the jury put anything together and at the end of the day, when they are asked to waive the alleging facts like some of hope hicks' statements come the motive the prosecution will use to lead them forward and see proof beyond reasonable doubt.

>> let me ask your. she herself testified very little about the payment itself. as you noted, there won't be direct testimony that trump told anyone to conceal the crime with false business records. how can we expect prosecutors to make the case to the jury that that was exactly what he did do? >> this is not uncommon in white-collar crimes. this is a circumstantial case and the prosecution will use layer after layer of circumstantial evidence to show how unlikely it is that it is mere speculation that trump was not in the mix. i think they will not rely too much on hope hicks for that. there are other witnesses. good testimony from david pecker in that regard. michael cohen is coming. that will be an interesting piece of testimony to watch and

others from inside the trump organization. the key piece of this case is the documents. in many ways, it is a documents case. like anyone who writes checks for corporation and certainly for trump, who is very cautious about his own money, he would have been shown invoices, the back of documentation. the government will put that case together. >> have you noticed any missteps from the prosecution or defense? >> if you're the defense, having your client sleeping in the courtroom is not a good look. it conveys a lack of respect for the process and jurors notice every little detail. they will notice things like that. the lawyers are doing a good job. the prosecution, i think, has been very straightforward. they are simply checking off

the box of the elements of proof that they have to establish that when they stand up in closing argument they can tell the jury here are the elements of the crime and here is our proof for every element. that is good technical expertise on their part. >> i was appreciate your excellent expertise. thank you for that. we appreciate you both. it has spread like wildfire on social media and it is 100% wrong. who fanned the flames? we will be back in 90 seconds. anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement.

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new insight into the role misinformation is playing at this year's presidential election. look at a recent viral post that suggests over half 1 million migrants are registered to vote in swing states. in a matter of weeks that false narrative generated more than 125 million views thanks in part to reposts and comments from x owner elon musk and former president donald trump. okay, i want you as i welcome you, disturbing telling what this post said and how it spread so quickly. >> this post that appeared on x, literally the first week of april, took data that actually exists that is publicly available from the social security administration that really shows verification request from texas, arizona, and pennsylvania. officials asking them, can you verify that the identity of this voter is real and they will get the social security

number. what the post did was misconstrue those numbers to say that they were individual voters and it is not a 1-1 tally. goes on to say by the way, you know who else gets social security numbers? people who come here illegally. which is not true. what we know as most noncitizens that have a social security number are already here in some legal capacity. they have a green card or a work permit that allows them to be here to perform a specific job. this gets posted and gets we treated by you want test. >> the happened so quickly? >> very quickly. an hour later. gets picked up by donald trump and marjorie taylor greene. than it reach facebook, instagram, and other countries. >> election officials, you

talked about, you reported that they were really quick to debunk this. how did they do that? so many other viral post that are false will linger forever. >> 100%. what happened was they started going viral and the reporters and journalists that saw this, many of them were writing fact checking articles and started reaching out and that move the officials to make public statements, to even reply to elon musk himself in his twitter thread. it was widely known that this was not real, even facebook labeled it and fact checked it. the problem became is that once the company says this is not factual, it activates the automated process that labels any similar content in the platforms with a label, but if it is a screenshot, for example, it is an easy way for people want to spread this to circumvent those methods. >> so something like this can be or rory lynch and get out there

if it is related to a legitimate crisis like the one we have on the border. would you say that is true? >> yes. three big things that make a false narrative spread like wildfire. the first one is using data that exists but presenting it in a false light. the second one is connecting it to a big crisis. it is true that there is more -- number of crossings of the board have been increasing and people in the towns are disrupting the system with a lot of pitfalls. a lot of that is true. this resonates. the third is harder to combat and it is an individual set of beliefs. and i'm speaking to researchers with this information they say, we can fact jake data all we want, but if you see this post and it lines up with may be somebody that might host anti- immigrant sentiment or they are

skeptical of the election process, they become less likely to be critical and they are more likely to take it at face value. >> it is an extraordinary story. thank you for bring it to us. see you again. coming up we are talking about the issue that could come back to haunt the republican party, november plus we will take you back live to the scene unfolding at the campus of the university of virginia as police move in on some protesters. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid before it begins. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention

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breaking news. police have moved in to the pro- palestinian encampment on the campus of the university of virginia in the city of charlottesville. you can see the live picture there right now. these are just moments ago but nonetheless we have just gotten them into us. joining us in is jim cavanaugh. we have seen this scene replicated across the country. encampment's being set up by students and taken down by police. weatherby campus police or local police to those communities. let's talk about how the presence of police like city police from outside university police groups, how does that escalate the situation? >> you know, it is a double edged sword, because if you

look at some of the video that msnbc has played in last week from, for example, the university madison, wisconsin. you will see officers with no helmets and no riot gear, shields, there running around and they are discombobulated and students are struggling with them and then you see a section of them in a circle surrounded by students. less officers is not going to work if people won't respond to verbal commands to leave so when you see a peaceful arrest situation like we are seeing here so far and we saw at columbia for the most part, no major injuries. nypd in for, thought ugly, slowly, and professionally, we southern california. california had a little more physical grabbing and pulling

but there was not any teargas used or anyone beat down to a pulp. the california highway patrol special operations unit, you need the members of police. you need the large numbers outfitted correctly for the disturbance, for the mass arrests. to be able to slowly and methodically be able to arrest the people. the crowd is emboldened that they can suffocate the police or overwhelm the police, then you start to have violence and it escalates. it is better to get there early with a lot of cops and be professional. be professional law enforcement. is the safest way to keep the students and the public safe. >> if our director could try to keep the pictures up for us. there's a significant police

presence and the kind that you described, they have riot gear, that helmets on. they have shields as well. this is clearly from charlottesville police department that is present there. looking through a tiktok of the university which earlier suggested that it became officially and encampment, even though they have had nine days of protest on campus, this morning. they took pretty swift action because tents began to be erected this morning and look where we are now. we are looking at some tweets from the campus a ministration and other local news, saying that they tried to handle this with the local campus police, but over a couple of hours they reached out to the charlottesville police department and that is who is now on campus. to your point, we have seen a couple people taken away with hands behind their back. but, doesn't look like anyone has been thrown on the ground or anything extensive there. how long with this kind of a thing last, do you think? you look at the live pictures with us. how long do something like this

last, this standoff? it looks like almost equal part students and protesters and police there. >> this is how it works. when the police, and you have the charlottesville police there and looks like campus police. when they say this is an unlawful assembly to have to leave in 10 minutes or be arrested, a large number of people believe, just like they did at columbia and they did in l.a. what you have to whittle down the people who want to be arrested. it is civil disobedience so we should not be mad at the police for the people who come out to protest. even civil rights leaders make about the 60s and remember watching that, they knew they would be arrested and they were peacefully marching to be arrested. what was wrong was when we had the bridge in selma and police teaching people destroyed

walked down the street to register to vote. that was wrong. the police handle that wrong. but when the police are professional like this, and given the lawful order and they start to make arrests, the crowd whittles down to a smaller number and that smaller number will be arrested and that it will be over. the downside of having a lot of police is that it is a spectacle. it is sort of a spectacle. >> that is what this looks like right now. it is a spectacle, for sure. >> exactly. some of the people are looking blue's. they do not want to go to jail. the police have the numbers. that looks like they are under good command and they will come in. when they talk about police negotiations, it's to deal with barricaded subjects of a s.w.a.t. team outside. with an armored vehicle or others, why would the guy want

to listen to you? if you don't have the strength. it is like the united states writ large. you have the state department is diplomats and then have the pentagon which of the war fighters. we did not have the robust pentagon and war fighters, why would any country listen to our diplomatic entendres? why would anyone listen to the united states? a belgian cancer to a country you should do this. who cares? baltimore zach winter thematic because they do not have the armed forces that we have.'s you have to have strength before you can negotiate peacefully. you have to have the ability to have strength. that doesn't mean abuse of power. not abuse of power. some students will see police and they will start to get all

angry about that but remember, police are here for the citizens of the united states. we are a nation of 3 to 40 million people and we want peace. there other students on campus and we do not want anybody injured. you made the point which i think is an excellent point that they have had nine days of free speech and protest there and the university did not move until they look like they were going to camp out. very smart decision by the university. let people protest and assemble and speech and get on the soapbox. it's like hyde park and london. you can stand on the soapbox and say anything you want. >> speakers corner. >> exactly. it is truly freedom but now, you cannot barbecue and starting to build huts and live there on the quad and interfere with other students, then it becomes a police matter. that is not free speech. >> we are going to -- have a couple people standing by to want to ask about this as well. we will reach out if things get more heated and help you narrate what is happening if it gets there, but right now it looks like again, a spectacle

and a things will hopefully dwindle down without any further incursions or certainly any damage to property or individuals being injured at all. we will keep a close eye on all of this. the control booth will do that. thank you so much as always. you're going to discuss it more with former california congresswoman katie hill and democratic strategist and present of the strategy group. welcome to you both. you first because in california, your home state and mine as well, there been some pretty challenging times on these campuses, notably ucla last week and it was awesome pretty bad actors there that were really disruptive and caused a lot of trouble. >> the protest are throwing the biden campaign on the back foot and he wants to talk but jobs and marijuana rescheduling and

the approaches have dominated for the past month. for college administered as they need to focus on de- escalation as much as possible, bringing police as a last resort because it will frequently make matters worse and galvanize other students who might not have gotten involved. one of the mistakes that ucla is that the police kept away. they should have gotten involved earlier with the counter protesters. it's an unfortunate reality that the protests have moved the conversation away from gaza where there is a crushing humanitarian crisis and focused it on america's college campuses in the way that ivy league students are being treated by the police. that is not the most important issue at hand and i hope we can start to change the conversation. >> you know, the biden campaign has been struggling with the youth vote. how does the scenario play into this? >> i want to say that as i am an alum of the university of virginia. so it's a wonderful school and have wonderful memories of it. it is quite surreal to see this happening. the students are protesting peacefully and the trauma that this town and this area has

gone through 2017, the police did not show up as quickly to handle folks carrying tiki torches saying jews will not replace us. him so this is more on how this is affecting the biden campaign. the response right now has been a little bit more risky because we need the youth vote. thick key part of the democratic coalition. i saw, earlier on cnn this morning saying, a lot of young people are focused, not yet focused on the election. if they are, foreign-policy is not something that they are considering or as focused on in large majority and as someone who for a living makes a party of working with clients who focus on turning out parts of

the key democratic base such as young voters, you want to make sure that base of support is solid. it is a gamble. it is a risk to dismiss any key part of the democratic coalition which is going to be the youth vote, especially with college democrats of america going on the record to say it is getting challenging messaging in support of you. we are your biggest stalwarts on these campuses and it is getting harder and harder to talk about domestic policy and all of the accomplishments when this is going on. the university of virginia has a very strong college democrats chapter. this is going to continue to be a challenge and it is a gamble and could work maybe for biden, but it could also blow back on house democrats need the youth vote to regain the house and for the senate. >> let me talk about a hot question. when it comes to abortion. there's a reproductive rights group in missouri that's collected enough signatures to advance a ballot measure

enshrining reproductive rights in the missouri constitution. how significant is this if another red state like missouri puts abortion on the november ballot? >> we've seen the states like ohio that abortion ballot measures are a massive turnout booster. right now it is the top issue for 1 in 8 voters, but i believe that there is under polling. think will be even stronger than we have seen and that is showing up in the last couple of years since roe, anytime abortion is on the ballot it is a booster for turnout. fine wins i think will be because of abortion of the biggest impact will be seen in states that also have abortion measures on the ballot. i do not know the he will win in missouri but i think you could certainly help in a variety of ways and the success of his campaign is largely going to depend on how it can convince voters that trump's recent backpedaling is a lie

and further research is will be the norm under any form of republican leadership. >> to what extent do you think you could provide opportunity for democrats in this state? >> i will agree that i think missouri is is pretty died in the wool republican state. and especially want to take a step back and talk about republican voters here. is a key portion of them, about 30%, actually support abortion rights and want to keep it legal. unfortunately, they are also the same people who will vote for the ballot initiative and got an vote for josh hawley as a committed evangelical antiabortion seller. what's the ground that they can make up in missouri and i think that will be a key strategic area. if i was advising campaigns, it's where we have folks who are not as likely to turn out. we call them lower turnout voters will be mobilized to come out, but the key things

you have to remember is that a lot of the democrats have to be supportive of abortion. they have to be willing to talk about it. the key to victory in michigan with gretchen whitmer is that they talked about the ballot initiative and the talked about abortion rights and the thing they would do to continue to uphold and support it. in kentucky was the same thing he picked up the margin and in virginia where i've done political work, even though there wasn't a ballot measure, there were democrats in key districts that were talking about stopping glenn youngkin from passing antiabortion initiatives. that actually helped us regain the general assembly here. that has to go hand in hand if democrats want to pick up any key wins. >> points well taken. thank you, ladies, and especially for pivoting and dealing with the news from the university of virginia, your

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participants were brought into the country illegally and are shielded from deportation under the program. joining me now is maria teresa kumar and always welcome here. good to see you. give me a sense of the impact this will have on people's lives. >> i want to give you a bit of context. this idea that we could bring

in more daca recipients into the healthcare system is a win for individuals that are paying into the system, with their taxes all the time but it's a win for the american people because folks are coming into the system have a tendency to be younger and we have younger folks that are healthier. it is a win across the board. this is how it happened. this been advocacy from many organizations for the last three and half years with the biden administration to start demonstrating support of daca recipients and undocumented. had the privilege on tuesday system to sit down with the president and some leaders and members of his cabinet to talk about the ease at the latino community needs understand coming from the president to ensure that there is continued support for him as he heads into november. the good thing is that you have more individuals eligible for healthcare. of healthier populations eligible for healthcare and at the same time looking towards the 2024 election of what else needs to happen in order to be sure that it is resonating that

the democratic establishment is continuing to support the hispanic community. >> i'm glad for that perspective but as you know, the reelection campaign has been criticized for not being responsive to the country's 36.2 million eligible latino voters. there's a new poll that shows the support among hispanic voters is creeping back. it is evenly divided right now. 52% favor biden 44% back trump. earlier polls showed him with some of the lotus -- lois supports since jimmy carter in the 1980. what should the campaign be doing to beef up the numbers? >> one is communicating what

they're doing on the ground. this is a fun factor. one third of all latino voters who voted for biden in 2020 were first-time voters. they were young voters who never voted before.'s for the opportunity is? in a place like arizona where biden won by less than 12,000 votes, their 163,000 latino youth who have turned 18 since the last election. 4 million new voters are eligible sitting on the sidelines and they're looking for this type of policy with a president is meeting latinos where they are not only providing only for undocumented individuals was saying, what else he going to do to make sure that my family, my father, my mother, my sister, who been here for decades also gets some sort of temporary relief and that is what the community is looking for. the more they have these conversations and the more they have executive actions, there able to communicate to the community their priorities. recently did focus groups and what we found was that latinos were defecting from the democratic party to the republican party. what we found is that they were thinking of sitting it out or considering third-party. that means that what the democratic establishment, what

needs to do is communicate the policies that they deeply believe in that are transformative for every single american but also starting able to demonstrate that you have a republican party that is okay with the nominee intending to mass deport 11 million people versus the democratic party the recognizes that immigrants are part of the lifeblood and fabric of the american people. >> okay. always making outstanding points. thank you for doing so once again on our show. and we will take you to a desperate situation unfolding in the state of texas after a break. break. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn.

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dramatic scenes as severe weather is in parts of texas. could get worse. thousands have evacuated and the crews rescued some who's chose to stay. priscilla thompson is on the ground in texas. how are folks recovering and do they have to prepare for more bad weather today? >> reporter: they will be preparing for more bad weather in a bit and it has been a challenging 48 hours for folks here. we are in montgomery county just outside of houston just to go on a ride along with the chief looking at the impacted neighborhoods and checking on the residence he decided to stay. the fire chief said they rescued and evacuated many people, 126 people on friday

alone. across the county, officials say 52 people had to be rescued in life-threatening situations and more than 300 had to be evacuated. first responders going in in boats and high water vehicles to get folks out and that is because of the dramatic images and videos that we are seeing of cars submerged because they have driven onto the flooded roads and roads filled with water because of the amount of rain, were talking about two feet of rain in some areas. because of the rivers that are cresting and officials are warning that it is not over yet. the judge in harris county spoke a short while ago and i wanted to play what she had to say to folks here. take a listen. >> there was a couple yesterday tried to go through the homes despite our warnings and at one point the gentleman had to hold on to his partner because she was being pulled away by the

current and so, please, i know that folks want to go and check on their homes, but this is not the time right now. if there is still water and you cannot see what is in there, it is unnecessarily dangerous. >> reporter: she issued the warning because she said people see that the rain has cleared today and that there are sunny skies and they think they can go back into their homes back into the residential neighborhoods but many of them are still flooded and there is expected to be more rain overnight. the good news is some of the rivers are beginning to crust which means that they are no longer rising. they will begin to go down a bit. we are still not in the clear just yet. and the other important piece of good news, no major injuries reported and no deaths reported but folks still need to be careful and stay safe.

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right now, the focus is on churchill downs for the kentucky derby. the party in louisville beginning before the race. they are waiting to watch the fastest two minutes in sports. steve kornacki is on the ground for the big day. >> reporter: the day is here. 150th kentucky derby. one of the oldest continuous sporting events in the country. what a festive mood here in churchill downs. for looking to watch this race and maybe put a few bucks on it, that is part of the tradition, have a big field to deal with. 20 horses, how to make sense of it? two horses will be the favorites in the race that are

getting most of the attention. one is named fierceness. at his very best i think is clearly better than all of the other horses but he has not always run his very best. for some reason nobody knows, a couple of races, he has not shown up. will fierceness be fierceness at his best today? the other is sierra leone. you will not see him on your screen during the race because he is sitting way in the back of the pack and then read his interest to make one big push. he has done it twice before. let's see if he can do it again. it is the derby, longshots when. last year, and 80:1 won it. if you're watching don't be intimidate by the experts, go with your gut. >> that will do it for me