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on january 6th. listen to our shows as a podcast for free, just scan the qr code on your screen to follow and listen anytime on the go. keep it here. ayman mohyeldin is up next. >> thank you, and good evening, my friend. hysteria over campus protests across america. the ucla student and a professor tell us what is actually happening on their campus. how prosecutors in trump's hush money trial could use the damning testimony of picks to nail the former president. and you will hear from a florida abortion provider on what, if any options , are left for women in that state now that the six-week ban is in effect. i am ayman mohyeldin. let's do it. ♪ ♪ gaza's youngest university
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was established in 2014 with a simple goal, ensuring poverty would not stand in the way of any palestinian that wanted to pursue a college degree. it was known for its towering main building and archway entrance, constructed as a love letter to islamic architecture. the university was set to mark its 10th anniversary this year to elevate that milestone, the school planned to open a public museum on campus housing more than 3000 artifacts including relics from the roman empire to more modern pieces of palestinian history and culture. however, the university and the items within its walls have been destroyed. israeli defense forces demolished the university main building reducing its rubble in a matter of seconds. the israeli military initially tried to justify this action
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claiming the campus had been "used by hamas for military activity, that there were concerns the group might use it to attack israeli forces." but, later, the israeli military admitted there had been flaws in the operational process, including the decision to destroy the entire building. however, isra university was not alone in gaza. according to an nbc analysis , multiple universities have been destroyed or damaged since israel began its bombardment of the gaza strip. historian at columbia university, noting "when you destroy these kind of institutions you are not fighting hamas, you're fighting the existence of the palestinians. you're fighting their ability to have memory and records, and to be educated." you and experts are now sounding the alarm expressing concern these attacks on universities in gaza are part of a much larger effort to attentively destroy the palestinian education system,
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an action known as scholasticism. the war has 88,000 students according to the palestinian authority ministry of higher education, but if you turned on television it is apparently american universities that are under attack. as per palestinian antiwar protests continue to spread to campuses across the country coverage of these protests have dominance traded. >> i am reminded of january the sixth, that's what this looks like to me. >> this might look like january 6th, but it's thousand times worse. >> charlottesville was a little peanut, and it's not the kind of hate you have here. >> i do not say that lightly. >> keep marching for hamas,
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kids. >> hamas is here. >> even the notion of an encampment is a physical threat. >> we have a terrorist group marching into new york right now. >> they are dumb and or unattractive, take it to the bank. perspective been brainwashed by tiktok to believe israel is committing genocide. >> was happening on college campuses is rooted in anti- semitism. >> they are embracing the rhetoric, and the ideology of hamas. >> negotiating with terrorists work for them? >> fascism as a result of these protests. >> we are going to have fascism as a result of these protests. absolute hysteria from the media, outrage over protesters setting up tents, occupying buildings, as gaza's entire education system lies in ruins. u.s. media have become obsessed with this manufactured idea of violence sweeping across american campuses all while failing to cover the very real
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violence that has decimated an entire generation's access to education. the media is not doing this alone. in new york city, mayor eric adams has made himself as the nation, or describes, the public face of the nationwide campus crackdown on pro- palestinian activism. adams attempted to rationalize the nypd's crackdown on columbia university, claiming he's preventing young people from being "radicalized by professionals." deputy commissioner tarik sheppard has gotten in on the baseless fear mongering as well. touting, bike chains, literally bike chains sold at a discount by columbia university as some kind of sinister weapon that's been brought in by outsiders. if you want to talk about sinister weapons inflicting mass destruction on a campus, what about the 300 plus mines used to blow up isra
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university? you cannot claim to be worried about violence at universities, about sorption's to students' education, about safety on college campuses and ignore what is taking place in gaza. you cannot be more concerned about the act of students protesting than you are with the very issues they are protesting against, and what described as a genocide.joining me now to discuss this and more, correspondent for the nation and author of that piece i just shared a few minutes ago, also with us, adjunct assistant professor in the department of political sciences, new york. she was among those arrested at an encampment on new york campus. rate to have you with us. you are looking at these protests
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and how they have been covered by our media, and how they happened described by pundents in the media. why the spectacle rather than the reason behind these protests can expect the actual violence in gaza, and i would add to the west bank, and the hysteria about the protests, the same media that wants to ignore what is being done about the mass slaughter of civilians, also wants to lie about the protesters. and it's really remarkable. i will add beyond peaceful. if you talk to the protesters and engage with the movement and go to some protests as i have here, in canada, it's been an incredibly inspiring movement, one of the most multicultural movements that has existed in the united states. you will see all shades and colors from all around the world, united by their outrage at what is happening in gaza.
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and it is as you mentioned peaceful, and they also have discipline, real structure in terms of, they don't let loose cannons speak for them. it is really inspiring thing. one would think it gives hope not only to america, to the world, that out of the horrors of gaza something like this could emerge, but the media presentation that you had at the top of this show, i mean, a real pack of lies to a remarkable extent. the antiwar more movement was also deeply criticized. >> tell us a bit about what you witnessed and experienced, how it stands in stark contrast to the coverage we have been
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seeing in the media, and how it's described. >> yeah, and i would just like to agree with the former speaker's comments, that these are really beautiful encampments, beautiful movements, and intersectional. they are bringing together people who are facing oppression and fighting against racism, police violence, house listeners, the impact of u.s. wars across the world, and connecting them to what is happening in gaza, the u.s. backed genocide and how our tax dollars, their tuition fees are going to supporting this genocide. my own experience of the violent raid on the encampment was horrifying, as you mentioned. not only nypd, but the special response group that entered into the encampment, there seemed to be 200 officers that came onto the encampment. there were reports nypd body
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cameras were turned off at crucial moments. close to 200 people were arrested, i saw people beaten on the floor. the nypd pushed back protesters with batons against their necks and chests when they had nowhere to go. as you said, in the jail itself, we were forced to wait in long lines in the cold and rain. people had swelling from zip ties. one person passed out. people were denied medical treatment, access to water, as well as to the bathrooms. of course, this is nothing compared to what is happening to the palestinian people in gaza. we must uplift the demands of these encampments, because of course their focus is on ending the genocide and ending the
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complicity of their universities in this genocide. and the point about the media you made earlier is an important one. the media just as they have distorted what is happening in palestine, and the settler colonial violence, and the role of u.s. government, its bombs and funding for this genocide, and they have dehumanized the palestinian people in order to justify this violence and dispossession. they are certainly trying to dehumanize and criminalize our students, who are bravely standing up against this injustice, like the student movement did in the '60s as the previous speaker discussed, to challenge the wars, challenge the racism, and they are doing it now. and that is why they are being targeted, because of their political clarity, and how courageous they are, and we should be standing by them. >> along with these protesters,
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accused of being radicalized by professionals, and you have nypd touting bike chains as sinister weapons. nypd is trying to use the fact they found what they call a book on terrorism, actual academic book on terrorism for justification of their actions. the deputy commissioner is holding up a history book written by charles townsend. why is nypd so shocked, do you think, to find books in the university? why would they reduce themselves to holding this up as a prop to justify their actions? >> well, i think this whole thing shows how little nypd can be trusted, because they honestly have light throughout this whole thing. and i'll even go back to the thing you quoted from mayor eric adams, where he says you know, our children are being radicalized by professionals, that's why we have to go go in.
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come in every society it's not up to police to decide whether people are radicalized or not. if people become radicalized that's perfectly legitimate political operation. adams said assault on free speech, and i think they were given a really despicable, unjustifiable mission, and they had to backpedal and find rationale for it. and that book, terrorism, short introduction, is part of a series of like hundreds of books at oxford, like the bible, short introduction, american history, short introduction. it's a joke that this book is being used as proof that these are terrorists. it is despicable lying. >> why do you think the professor, that is a willingness to focus on the students than talk about the substance of the protest or whether demands are realistic to talk about whether their concerns are legitimate to talk about whether the protests are valid, and instead just do what
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we are seeing right now? this hysteria, this hyperventilating about damage and threats and dangers to universities across the campus? >> well thanks for that question. for so long our universities had been complicit in upholding these institutions, these systems and structures that enable settler colonialism dispossession of the palestinian people, violence against unities of color here. you know, undermining working- class struggles here. the dispossession of indigenous nations in this country, so our institutions are designed to uphold these structures and systems of oppression, and they cannot tolerate that the students are challenging and exposing this, the hypocrisy and the double standards of our institutions, and so they need to demonize them in order to justify this repression, and really have a chilling effect
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on academic freedom, and freedom of expression on our campuses. and you know, this is a really serious issue, not just on our campuses, but people across the country should worry, because if this sort of fascist violence against our students enacted by administrations, who should be protecting our students, they are the ones who are enabling the violence to happen, they are calling the police in. if it happens on our campuses, it will happen elsewhere. we have to be aware this form of fascist violence and repression will end up impacting more than just the students protesting in support of palestinian liberation today. >> we will talk about that coming up. jeet heer, corinna mullin, thank you for your insights. one of the protest locations truly stands out from the rest we've seen. we will dig into that and white with ucla professor, next. nah...not me. in a relationship. if you're sexually active and unvaccinated,
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imagine a scenario two years from now in a world, where trump is elected for a second term as president. of college students peacefully protesting his foreign policy agenda on their encampments. imagine trump supporters show up at that protest and openly taunt and attack the students, but then the police officers arrest the students, the peaceful protesters. and they do not reprimand or take any action against the group that instigated the violence. that approach would be widely condemned, my colleagues in the media would consider it a fascist move. a version of that scenario did play out earlier this week at university of california at los angeles, it happened under a democratic president, a democratic governor, and in a staunchly blue state. students had been protesting in support of gaza pro-palestinian antiwar encampment since april
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25th, it was one of a few peaceful protests across the country that didn't experience crackdowns from school administrators, or the police. on tuesday, all of that changed. at 11:00 p.m. crowds of pro-israeli counter protesters arrived trying to tear down the encampments' barricade, and when the students tried to defend it, they were attacked, and the violence escalated. over the span of a few hours, counter protesters launched fireworks toward the encampment, they sprayed chemicals at students' faces, and swarmed and attacked people. in some cases, with objects, like wooden boards and traffic cones. it took nearly 3 hours for police to arrive to the encampment, and when they did, videos actually showed them standing in the distance making no effort to stop it for about an hour. ucla says it is examining its security process, and the system went president has launched an investigation. according to an investigation by new york times it is not
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clear how the protest was organized, or what allegiances people committing the violence had. videos though so many of the counter protesters wearing pro israel slogans on their clothing. as of friday new york times reports none of the counter protesters have been arrested, but at least 15 people have been injured, and the next night the police used flash bangs and aggressively tore down the encampment, and guess what? the arrested over 200 in that peaceful encampment. the double standard here is glaring. across the country, from columbia, to the university of texas in austin, to the university of virginia, today, police acted fast, aggressively, cracking down on these pro-palestinian student protesters. when actual violence was happening before their eyes, violence against those pro- palestinian students, the police stood aside while waiting hours to intervene, if at all.
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with me now to discuss this is ucla postgraduate researcher in california. great to have you with us. i know this has been a difficult week, but tell us about your experience on tuesday night at the encampment. what did you experience first- hand? how would you describe the violence carried out by counter protesters? >> hi, thank you so much for having me. tuesday night was very scary. i was actually going to the restroom outside of the encampment when the violence began to escalate, and i heard from the encampment, everybody screaming they got in, help, help. these were things we hear constantly since we set up the encampment, because agitators, counter protesters, have been trying to reach the encampment, since day one. our protocol is just try and refrain from engaging, just
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secure our barriers, make sure everybody remains safe and calm . but, when they were screaming for help, that's when my friends and i ran back into the encampment, and suddenly i see so many people on the frontline dropping to their hands and knees, putting their hands over their eyes and screaming in pain. that's when i realized they were pepper spraying us. so, it was these mobs of violent people supporting israel's genocide, who had escalated their harassment to full-blown violence, violent attacks on us. they pepper sprayed us, bear maced us. they threw wood, pipes, and started chucking fireworks at us, as you can see in the clip. i saw them explode. it was quite terrifying. there were multiple burn
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victims, over 100 people were pepper sprayed or maced. 25 are hospitalized. in the violence went on for several hours, as people screamed for help for campus security, and those who stood idly by and watched as people screamed for help-- [ inaudible ] that was [ inaudible ] police had unfortunately protesters within the encampment resorted to calling 911, because we needed paramedics. and they didn't come. there was no [ inaudible ] for-- hours of no intervention. >> let me ask you if i can quickly, describe the atmosphere on the campus today. what are you hearing from your students about the protests, and whether there are
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intentions to resume protests in any fashion, or way at this moment. >> so i have not been on campus today. i went on campus the day after the sweep. it was quite sad. i think there is this feeling that so much was put on the line for this cause. this protest was very passionate. it was very purposeful. we have these divestment goals we want to achieve, and it feels like the administration doesn't care, that they don't take our protests fiercely. it is a very defeating feeling when there is an ongoing genocide happening in gaza, over 35,000 people have been killed, and the ground invasion in rafah, we are wanting our
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university to call for cease- fire, to divest, and it is very discouraging that the encampment ended this way. i don't know about plans to put up another encampment. i think that right now we are sort of, we are in recovery mode right now. >> kaia shah, thank you for your time . thank you for sharing with us your story. thank you. with me now, ucla professor waxman, director of the center for israel studies, in los angeles. professor, great to see you again. thank you for your time. earlier this week you said you were appalled and heartbroken by the violence that took place as we heard, on that campus. why did it get to that point? >> well, it was clearly a complete failure of leadership at the university, and in terms
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of campus police, i think they were showing already signs for violence days before it actually exploded on our campus, and frankly, the campus police seemed to be completely unprepared, understaffed, to prevent that kind of violence taking out. it's shocking. i know there will be independent investigation into this. across the board, faculty and students are like whatever their views about the encampment, the palestinian issue, i think across the board, there is absolute repulsion at the seams that took place at this violence. and really a deep sense of shame that frankly our students were let down by the university which said would protect them. >> there are questions as to
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who was behind these counter protests. we are seeing reports that prominent figures, like billionaire bill ackman, wife of jerry seinfeld, giving funding. is it dangerous to have outside influence on these incumbents that have mostly been peaceful on these college campuses across the country? are we entering a dangerous time, when you have this kind of influence from outside college universities feeling this type of violence? >> outside, we have seen outside agitators, if you like, and trying to enter these protests, some taking part in them. but also opposing them. and now we have seen a very large counter demonstration that was put on last weekend, i think that brought a lot of people of ucla community onto
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our campus. i personally witnessed some provocative and aggressive behavior by some masked pro- israel counter protesters, and i think it definitely elevated tensions, but the individuals that carried out this violence on tuesday night, they didn't seem to the part of any organized group. they may have had pro-israel sentiment, many were just acting in a completely violence manner, which i don't think any of the groups that organized the large counter demonstration that took place on campus would have supported. but it does escalate tensions. and right now what i think we need is to de-escalate things and avoid violence, and keep students, both protesters, and those who want protesting, safe on campuses. these kinds of things really jeopardizing the alliance
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frankly, of students. >> today, as you have probably seen, may 4th marks 54 years since the infamous 1970 kent state shootings when the national guard killed four unarmed students protesting at the time, the protesting of the bombing of cambodia during the vietnam war. when you look at what is happening across the country in these protests, as a similar moment not necessarily in that it will result in death, i hope it does not, but that we are getting close to a tipping point, that we are not as a country being able to pull back and de-escalate. is there a double standard with the way we are talking about these campus protests that is leading us in the wrong direction? >> well, i think in some of the discourse on the right which is depicting these protesters as anti-semitic mob, of dangerous extremists, that certainly does signal or encouraged the agitators, these violent attacks. it of course has led to quite
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harsh and violent sponsors by law enforcement, as we saw at ucla's campus. so, i think what is desire on the part of some to use the scene of turmoil or violence to create a narrative that american college campuses have become bastions of anti-semitism and left-wing extremism that there is widespread disorder, and then to encourage law enforcement to crack down, not only to crack down on these students and encampment's, but more broadly to crack down on pro-palestinian student activism, however peaceful it might be. >> we are seeing a dangerous threshold being crossed with some calling for the national guard to be deployed against these students, that's
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payments to stormy daniels 2018, his former fixer, uncle cohen, made the payment, without trump's knowledge, and at the time trump denied knowing anything about it. hicks told jurors the morning after that new york times story dropped trump told her cohen made the payment to protect them from false allegations, and that cohen did it out of the goodness of his own heart. msnbc legal analyst catherine christian, former district attorney at the manhattan das office, it's great to have you with us the captain.
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what you make of this testimony? how crucial was it for the prosecution? >> very crucial. she was a very important it is. first of all, just her role. she was the press person for the campaign, so as press person she had the credibility to tell this jury when that access hollywood tape, it caused a devastating crisis within the campaign, which is the reason why according to the prosecutors, they had to for a lack of a better word, hush stormy daniels up. she confirmed it was a crisis in the campaign when that hit, and she also confirmed more importantly, the $130,000 payment made by michael cohen to stormy daniels, donald trump knew about. she confirmed that donald trump thought that this should be taken care of before the election, and she was very credible, because she appeared very objective, and she had her own lawyer, so she was not there for trump, or the prosecutors, she came by
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subpoena, and unlike the previous witnesses, mr. pecker who was a great witness for the prosecution, he was former publisher of the national enquirer, again, you know, a little sleazy factor there. miss hope hicks had none of that, just write down the middle. >> there was this recording of a conversation between cohen and trump that was played. for context they were discussing the payment to playboy model karen mcdougal. just what the jury heard. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend, david. i spoke to alan about it, when it comes to the financing-- >> what financing? >> we'll have to pay-- >> pay with cash. expect no no no. >> what does that audio offered
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to prosecutors, that exchange, when trump told him to pay with cash. >> it shows he knew about this payment, and he didn't make the payment, mr. cohen , this was made by david company, ami, to karen mcdougal, suppressing certain information that would get out to the public that would hurt his chances of election. this, he is not being charged with this. this tape, this karen mcdougal story is being offered to prove donald trump's intent to falsify business records as they relate to the payment that was made to stormy daniels. the defense would say, if you listen to that tape, he was controlling the conversation? michael cohen. who says no, i'll take care of it. michael cohen. that's the defense, that donald trump was aloof, and this was this rogue actor, michael cohen
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, acting without donald trump office knowledge. that's the defense's perspective. >> trump is still going after judge merchan , calling the trial abide in witchhunt, and accusing merchan of allowing unfair evidence, of course using no evidence to back this up. this after being fined over $9000 this week for violating the gag order. what do you make of his boldness here, his impunity here ? is jailing him the only way to force trump to comply with the judge's order? >> well he's allowed under the order to completely attack the judge to attack district attorney bragg. he's not allowed to say negative, positive, anything's, about witnesses, or about jurors. when he says he can't speak, that's not true, he can speak about the case. he can speak about the judge. he can speak about the district attorney, just not intimidate witnesses or jurors.
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women turned away at one fort lauderdale area clinic the day before the ban took effect. in the coming months there will certainly be many more women facing what they winter. clinics across florida, the country's third largest state, can no longer offer abortions to most patients who walked through their doors. it is expected to be the biggest jolt since roe versus wade was overturned by the supreme court in 2022. "it is truly a terrifying time to be a pregnant person in florida, and that is the devastating reality." dr. chelsea daniels is our next guest. t guest. and th innest sensor. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. try it for free at freestylelibre.us (woman) ugh, of course it stops loading at the best part. (tony hale)ower your a1c. you need verizon. get their crazy powerful network out here, and get six months of disney bundle on them! (vo) stream with six months of disney bundle on us. and watch it all on the new samsung galaxy s24+, also on us.
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only on verizon with florida's abortion ban in effect the state is no longer a refuge for women in the south. providers outside of florida are bracing for new patients, as doctors inside are forced to navigate this new legal landscape. chelsea daniels joins me now, member of the committee to protect healthcare's reproductive freedom task force. dr. daniels, thank you for joining us this evening. what did you hear from your patients in the days before this ban took effect, and how many were just too late? >> thank you for having me on to discuss this. this is also deeply important to me, and so many of us throughout the country, and here in florida. people were confused. they were terrified. they were panicked, angry. a lot of people were unaware that
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a ban had been put into place. people expressed outrage over the fact that we weren't able to provide them care when they themselves figured out they were pregnant. so, having to have these challenging conversations with patients about where they can access healthcare that is basic and essential is absolutely devastating and should not be a reality that any of us are supposed to face. and only the minority of patients know they are pregnant and are able to access care before that six week mark, so we are unfortunately having to direct, redirect, 80% patients. >> florida was an access point for those seeking reproductive care in the south, now it's floridians who will have to travel as we said up to 11 hours to get to a place like in north carolina for out-of-state services. are these out-of-state clinics ready? is that realistic for people
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who may not be available to afford it or get as far away as 11 hours for the care they need? >> yeah, i think that is an extremely important point. abortion providers, we are tough and resilient, and we work as hard as we can to take care of every patient, and to do everything we can, but last year in florida we did 84,000 abortions, and i think even with the best of patient navigators and the best of intentions and everyone working as hard as possible i don't think any one state or clinic can possibly accommodate all floridians seeking care. and that is just-- a dystopian kind of thing we are having to face here. that essential healthcare will be denied, and that puts people's lives at risk. and i think we know that these kinds of restrictive bans affect certain people more than they affect others. they will affect our most marginalized.
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they will drive up rates of maternal mortality and communities of color. so, i think we should be honest about the fact any abortion restrictions are disproportionately affecting our already marginalized patients. >> something that is now a felony in florida now, to actively participate in an abortion after six weeks. we have seen an exodus of doctors who left out of fear of criminal prosecution. tell us about that from your personal vantage point. will providers in florida do the same? are you afraid the criminal prosecution for any reason, even if by error you make a decision that ends up in your prosecution? >> yeah, i mean i think we have seen this exodus happen from states were abortion ban have been imposed in other states, and we've had it in florida when the 15-week went into effect. it is understandable.
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we have taken the hippocratic oath to prioritize health and safety, and yet we are told by politicians with no medical background to essentially ignore that oath. and it causes a lot of moral injury, and moral distress. i don't think the gravity of that can be overstated. but i personally am so compelled to continue to serve my community, because i know that this is basic, essential healthcare, and my patients need me, and any doctors, who are able to provide pregnancy related care, and i want to be there for them. >> dr. chelsea daniels, thank you for your time and insights tonight. a new hour of ayman after this. this. s? and look at me now. you'll never truly forget migraine but qulipta reduces attacks making zero-migraine days possible. it's the only pill of its kind that blocks cgrp and is approved to prevent migraine
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